The Fantastic Four: First Steps
Summary
As agitation builds forThe Fantastic Four , Marvelfans may be tempted to bet back at the former live - action mechanism versions of the squad , but some harsh realism are awaiting them if they do . ThoughFantastic FourandFantastic Four : ascending of the Silver Surferdo have a few enjoyable moments , likeChris Evans ’ wonderfully chesty Johnny Storm , they are few and far between . Manyaudiences already betray to get in touch with these moviesthe first time around , and age has n’t precisely been kind to them in many regards .
Some of the issues withFantastic Fourand its sequel are more unmistakable now thatthe MCU timelinehas raised the standards for what audiences look from a superhero moving picture . These film were a lot more cartoony , though they miss some of the deepness of superhero movies with a likewise camp tone , like Sam Raimi’sSpider - military man . There are also just some aspects that have senesce poorly and are more detectable to modern hearing who are more discerning about certain media tendency , such as the room the movies treat Sue Storm .
The Fantastic Four is speculated to take topographic point in an substitute reality in the vast multiverse , but this could recapitulate a divisive MCU Phase 4 consequence .
10Victor Von Doom Is Too Generic A Villain
Doctor Doom Is Played By Julian McMahon In Fantastic Four (2005) And Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer (2007)
InFantastic Four , Victor von Doom experience less like a supervillain and more like the competition from a romanticistic comedyfor the first chunk of the movie . He seems to even have an hunky-dory enough kinship with the Storms and even Ben Grimm to begin with in the moving-picture show . Because he was set up as more of a jerk than anything else , when he finally does go full supervillain , he seems like a completely different grapheme .
Part of the job is thatFantastic Fourstrips by a lot of the character ’s personal story . He is no longer a bright scientist in search of a way to write his female parent ’s soulfulness from Mephisto like in Marvel Comics , but alternatively more of an arrogant rich cat stereotype . Doom ’s hate for Reed also seems more motivated by their love triangle with Sue Storm than anything else , though Doom is far from the character who gets treated the worst because of this plotline .
9Sue Storm Is Defined By Her Romantic Relationships
Sue Storm Is Paired With Both Doctor Doom And Mister Fantastic In Fantastic Four (2005)
Marvel Comics ' original depiction of Sue Storm is one that still sees much decisive reception to this solar day . That suppose , the comics started in the 1960s , so there ’s a sensible expectation that movies made in the 2000s would have made some positive steps forwards concerning her fictional character . Unfortunately , this is not the case inFantastic Four .
Sue Storm ’s story inFantastic Fouris totally focused on her relationshipswith Reed Richards and Victor von Doom . Even one of Johnny Storm ’s first lines about his sister is discussing her choosing between Reed and Victor . Sue is rarely image doing anything by or for herself . alternatively , she is either fetter to one of her possible beloved interests or being forced to act like the female parent chassis of The Fantastic Four and break up fights between Johnny and Ben . This leave Sue being defined by the Man around her and never getting to be her own person .
8Fantastic Four Doesn’t Pass The Bechdel-Wallace Test Until The Final Scene
The Bechdel-Wallace Test Gets Its Name From Cartoonist Allison Bechdel And Liz Wallace
In its simplest physique , the Bechdel - Wallace test is passed by any movie that contains two cleaning woman who talk to each other about something that is n’t a man . While this seems like a downcast bar to clear , Fantastic Fourdoesn’t manage to do so until the final scene . Even then , this scene is simply Sue Storm and Alicia Masters switch over a single channel each about grabbing a drink . WhileFantastic Four : boost of the Silver Surferpasses the exam originally , it does not do so much more often than the first pic .
The Bechdel - Wallace run is unremarkably only reference to discuss how a film treats its distaff lineament . While the test is pretty rudimentary , and originally just based on a humourous comic strip , it can be a good meter reading that a picture show is not concerned in explore its distaff grapheme outside of how they impact male fictional character . This is largely the case inFantastic Fourand its subsequence , which ispretty disappointing for a movie that features a female superhero as one of the main characters .
7Silver Surfer Felt Like A VFX Reel, Not A Character
The Silver Surfer Was Played By Laurence Fishburne And Doug Jones In Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer (2007)
The Silver Surfer is a popular Marvel fictional character who originate inThe Fantastic Fourcomics . His inclusion inFantastic Four : Rise of the Silver Surferwas therefore highly anticipated by fans who were familiar with him from the comics . regrettably , when the movie came out , its depiction of Silver Surfer leave a lot to be desired .
For a good chunk of the former picture , the Silver Surfer barely speaks or interacts with other characters at all . rather , he fly around the world , stimulate some disaster that The Fantastic Four have to help deal with . When the Surfer finally does have the chance to have a history , it is a very bare - bones adaptation of his classical stock from Marvel Comics , only get across by a few lines of dialogue . The movie seemed more interested with but usher the character than actually exploring the stories that make him attract to audience .
6Chris Evans Is Out Of The Superhero Game (For Now)
Chris Evans Plays Johnny Storm In In Fantastic Four (2005) And Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer (2007)
Chris Evans has tackle quite a few superheroroles , but his roles as Johnny Storm in theFantastic Fourmovies and Captain America in the MCU are the unity he is best experience for . Though still a far yell from his piece of work as Steve Rogers , Chris Evans fork out a great performance as Johnny Storm aka the Human Torch , and is one of the most gratifying element of the 2000sFantastic Fourmovies .
Though Chris Evans is a highlighting ofFantastic FourandFantastic Four : upgrade of the Silver Surfer , his presence is also a harsh reminder thathe is presently not slated for any succeeding superhero appearances . Though MCU fans can harbour out hope that he will return forAvengers : Secret Wars , and there ’s always the opportunity he lands a role in the DCU reboot , as of now there is nothing prescribed .
5Fantastic Four Pulls Story Elements Out Of Nowhere
This Issue Is More Pronounced In Fantastic Four (2005) Than Its Sequel
For a movie with a two - time of day runtime , Fantastic Fourfeels queerly rushed a lot of the time . This is potential so that the movie could accommodate mostly purposeless tantrum of Johnny Storm skiing or doing Motocross to cash in in on the popularity of extreme mutant in the 2000s . Because the plot can feel rushed , some ofFantastic Four ’s narrative elements seem to come up out of nowhere .
One instance is when Johnny establish up with a toy dog of The Thing , claiming a merchandising team put it together . This is the first mention of The Fantastic Four even feature a marketing squad , and this part of the story never down up again . While this is a one - off joke , and excusable in a more cartoonish movie , it also bechance with major tale beats . The moving picture ends with Reed Richards purpose to Sue Storm even though the movie never even mentions them make back together . With their past times only loosely hinted at , it feels very rushed .
4Both Movies Find An Excuse For Sue Storm To Get Naked
Sue Storm Is Played By Jessica Alba In Fantastic Four (2005) And Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer (2007)
During The Fantastic Four ’s first activity sequence together inFantastic Four , Reed tells Sue to become invisible to sneak past the police force , who are preventing the team from reaching Ben . In the setting , Sue ’s powers do n’t make her clothes invisible , so she is pressure to get raw . Halfway through the process , she re-emerge wearing only her underwear . The conniption feels more than a lilliputian exploitative , especially given that Johnny and Reed somehow also cabbage past the police off - screen , prove the sequence was unneeded from a plot of ground linear perspective .
Fantastic Four : boost of the Silver Surferalso has a picture of Sue becoming publicly embarrassed due to losing her apparel . This time , it ’s because she and Johnny switch powers , and her clothes combust up . More charitable read of this scene could chalk it up as an homage or otiose rehash of the vista from the first motion-picture show , but it still feels unusual thatboth movies felt the need to make the team ’s only distaff character be humiliated by undesirable public nudity .
3Doctor Doom Takes His Mask On And Off For No Real Reason
Doctor Doom Rarely Removes His Mask In Marvel Comics
Marvel Comics has a passably clean account for why Doctor Doom wears his masque : his face was marred in an experimentation gone incorrect that Reed Richards warn him about . The masquerade party serves the dual role of hide both his scarred visage , and a forcible reminder of a metre that Reed was right and Doom was incorrect . In the movie , the masquerade seems to mostly just be there because it was there in the comedian .
InFantastic Four , it ab initio seems like Doctor Doom put on the mask because of his scar , but this also contradicts something he articulate to Ben earlier in the movie . master call on the carpet Ben for not accepting the office given to them and seems to be to the full embracing his new self . This hold it unknown thatVictor then almost immediately treat his face in his next fit .
This wishy - washed-out exercise of the mask is also present in the sequel . One of Doom ’s first scenes is himhaving his masquerade rationalize off his human face . However , the next time he turns up , he ’s still fag the mask . It could be argued that this was so he could keep the mask off in individual , but it just seems like something that was n’t necessary to show the audience . Later , Victor puts the masquerade back on , even after the Power Cosmic has bring around his scar , making it seem like he just likes using the masque for no actual aim .
2Rise Of The Silver Surfer Did More Comics Accurate Super Skrull Than The MCU
The MCU’s Version Of The Super Skrulls Appeared In Secret Invasion (2023)
Skrulls are a race of human body - lurch aliens in Marvel Comics . A Skrull named Kl’rt became the first Super Skrull when he was given the great power of the entire Fantastic Four . Although there were no Skrulls inFantastic Four : salary increase of the Silver Surfer , the moving picture did pay homage to the case by having Johnny Storm absorb the ability of the whole squad . This take to some Hellenic Super Skrull moveslike the Thing ’s hand at the end of a stretched - out fist .
WithFantastic Four : wage increase of the Silver Surferbeing so poorly obtain , it ’s a little disappointing to see that the moving-picture show still supervise to force off a more exact - look edition of the Super Skrull than the MCU.Secret Invasionhad two Skrulls - Gravik and G’iah - gainSuper Skrull abilities . However , becauseThe Fantastic Four have n’t joined the MCU yet , they rather had the powers of different Avengers . aside from not receive the same iconic motion as the original Super Skrull , the MCU version was heavily criticized for its subpar VFX .
1Reed Richards' Money Troubles Don’t Make Sense
Fantastic Four (2005) Sets Up Reed Richards As Being Bankrupt
InFantastic Four , Reed Richards is force to go to Victor von Doom for money to fund his research . It is shown that Reed of late declared failure , and later Reed is give a stack of unpaid bills by a mail carrier - which is alsothe film ’s Stan Lee cameo . This seems to be coiffure up a storyline about Reed needing to see money , but nothing ever comes of it , despite the picture show not explaining how the team generates revenue . This makes even less sentiency considering Reed ’s apartment .
Reed lives on the top storey of the Baxter Building in Manhattan , with the intact top two story of the edifice seemingly belong to to him . His flat is also full of state - of - the - fine art equipment that he uses to run experiments on the team . It seems moderately hard to consider that this is a man who supposedly does n’t have any money - and how exactly Reed ’s fortune either of a sudden modify or otherwise allowed him all this while still broke is n’t directly addressed . Hopefully , this and other foreign world - building elements can be smooth out inThe Fantastic Fourwhen it releases in 2025 .
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Fantastic Four trace four spaceman who gain over-the-top abilities after a quad missionary work move awry . Reed Richards , Sue Storm , Johnny Storm , and Ben Grimm transform into superheroes tax with combat Dr. Doom ’s evil outline , brand their debut in facing spherical threat with freshly win force .
Fantastic Four : ascension of the Silver Surfer follows the superhero squad as they confront the puzzling Silver Surfer , whose reaching on Earth heralds impend global danger . While grapple with raw and former opponent , the Fantastic Four must unravel the mystery behind the Silver Surfer ’s true intentions .
Fantastic Four follows four astronauts who gain extraordinary abilities after a space mission goes awry. Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Johnny Storm, and Ben Grimm transform into superheroes tasked with combating Dr. Doom’s malevolent schemes, marking their debut in facing global threats with newly acquired powers.
Fantastic Four follows four astronauts who gain extraordinary abilities after a space mission goes awry. Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Johnny Storm, and Ben Grimm transform into superheroes tasked with combating Dr. Doom’s malevolent schemes, marking their debut in facing global threats with newly acquired powers.
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer follows the superhero team as they confront the enigmatic Silver Surfer, whose arrival on Earth heralds impending global danger. While grappling with new and old adversaries, the Fantastic Four must unravel the mystery behind the Silver Surfer’s true intentions.
