Smallville
Summary
Smallville’sown Lex Luthor , Michael Rosenbaum , revisit his journey as the iconicDCComics type , the show ’s ever - grow bequest , and the journey of his podcast patronage . October 16 , 2001 , marks one of the biggest dates in DC ’s live - natural action legacy , asSmallvillepremiered on The WB , severalize the ultimate stock floor of a vernal Clark Kent , play by Tom Welling . demand shoes before the leotards , theSmallvilleseriesexplored Clark discovering his Kryptonian heritage , and ultimately belong through the lessons that would make him ready to become Superman .
However , as much asSmallvillewas about Welling ’s Superman , The WB ( before The CW ) dramatic play was also the gravid tale of Lex Luthor and how he would become the ultimate opponent to the succeeding Man of Steel . bet by Michael Rosenbaum , Smallvillechronicled the complex friendly relationship between Lex and Clark before they landed in their several role as adversaries . By the ending ofSmallvilleseason 7 , Rosenbaum ’s personification of the DC icon had embraced his destiny as the baddie of the tale .
Lex Luthor finally figured out Clark ’s biggest secret at the remainder of Smallville time of year 7 . Here ’s all six clues that betoken to the heavy reveal .
Screen Rantexclusively question Rosenbaum , who is a major darling at this publishing and often view as the good player to have play Lex in live - action . AsJames Gunn’sSupermanmovieis gearing up its production , theSmallvillestar think over upon his experience playing one of the most famous DC Comics foe of all fourth dimension and hear the show ’s massive legacy continue to grow . Outside of his acting , writing , and channelize vocation , Rosenbaum has also become a prominent podcast Godhead , toutingInside of You with Michael RosenbaumandTalk Ville Podcastunder his belt , both of which he discussed in the interview .
Michael Rosenbaum Breaks Down His Smallville Legacy As Lex Luthor
Screen bombast : We ’re 25 class out from whenSmallvillefirst premiered , and everyone is still discover the show wherever they are in the humans . Is it surreal for you to see how monumental the show continues to be after all this clip ?
Michael Rosenbaum : Yeah , I ’m aboveboard shocked because when you ’re doing a show like Smallville or any project , first of all , you do n’t really eff how it ’s going to be received . For me , the first time that I ever felt like [ a project that I was working on ] is rifle to be a striking was Smallville .
When I get wind the original , and David Nutter shoot it , we were doing ADR , and he goes , ' Would you care to see the chess opening of the show in the pilot burner ? ' I go , ' Sure , ' and he showed it to me . I had a tear in my eye . I go , ' Oh , my gosh , ' and I walked out to call my parents who I ’d never call [ like ] that and sure did n’t ever call them and secern them , ' Hey , I ’m doing this undertaking . ' But I said , ' This is locomote to be a hit . I ’m go bad to be recognise after the show . ' Because I never would say that , and I felt it .
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Now , that being said , I did n’t eff that , 10 year after the show was over , I ’d still be able to go to cons where many Smallville fan would still be arrive to see me [ or ] that Tom [ Welling ] and I would be doing a podcast called Talk Ville Podcast , a rewatch podcast . I did n’t mean the show had leg like that and it ’s reasonably astounding . Then the articles that would get along out , it ’s really cool when you see your peer come over to the house , like James Gunn , who ’s a friend , saying squeamish things like , ' I conceive you ’re the best Lex Luthor , ' and from other worker , which is nice ! I smile and say , ' All right , I did something veracious ! ' Because I certainly do n’t do a lot of things correct .
When it comes to this whole globe , I will call my grandmother and check in with her all the time as she belong , ' Where are you ? ' I ’m like , ' Well , I ’m doing a conventionalism and sign autographs . ' [ She will ask ] ' For Smallville , they still want your autograph ? ' [ Laughs ] ' I guess so ! ' It ’s middling amazing , to say the least , but I welcome it ! I ’m thankful . I love the fans . Sometimes we cry together , we express mirth together , and I really be intimate doing it . I love that Smallvile still has a estimable fanbase .
We ’re endure in an age where there are more convention , and there are more opportunity to engage with the fans . But when you were shootingSmallville , did you get to go to San Diego Comic - Con and big result like that ? What was your interaction with the fandom back then ?
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Michael Rosenbaum : I got the opportunity to go to some cons along the way . I ’ll never leave , one of the first bunco I went to was in Orlando - Mega Con , I think it was call - and I took my grandparents with me . The line was wrapped around the building and I could n’t trust it . I remember my grandfather said , ' Who are these people here to see ? ' and I said , ' I think me , ' he live on , ' This is crazy . ' He model there and watched for 60 minutes , he did n’t get blase watching me meet fans , talk to them , hug them , and sign for them . He could n’t get over it , he stayed with me the whole fourth dimension .
I was doing cons , but Tom and Kristin were n’t doing them . I get both of them to finally do it after the show finish ; I finally keep bugging both of them . I said , ' You guys are derisory . Get over it . Listen to me . These fans will love fancy you . You ’ll have a good clip . You got to do it . ' They set forth doing it , they love it , and the rest is story .
Being Defined The Best Lex Luthor Of All Time
The conversation often comes up , whether it ’s from buff , critic , journalists , or fellow people in Hollywood , about how you are define as the bestLex in live - actionof our generation . What do you think it is that still speaks to viewers to this day ? Why do you suppose people come across so much with your interpretation of Lex ?
Michael Rosenbaum : That ’s a really skillful question . I imagine the answer is that it was n’t just a show where Lex is instantly vicious and twirl his moustache . Well , he does n’t have any whisker , so the proverbial moustache ! This was a storey about a guy , a human being , who was trying to not devolve in the shadow of his father . He wanted to do good for the community of interests and to be a better person to change the great unwashed ’s views on the Luthors . You get to see the good side of him , you also got to see the flashbacks of when he was a child and what trauma he endure .
I think that came together along with solid writing for this graphic symbol and great scene , whether it was with Tom as Clark or John Glover as Lionel Luthor . I always say that it ’s not just my playacting , but it ’s the other person ’s acting . It ’s the room the show was filmed , the sound pattern , the work party , everybody come together for a arrant storm . But I think that I always go up fiber for the most part as , ' How do I keep them grounded ? How do I verbalize like a human being , talk to people , like a real person ? How do I listen , answer , and oppose to other people ? ' That ’s how I find out to act from high school or college on . Again , for some reason , this combination of the writing of the character , the depth and the acting , all of it occur together .
I think that ’s why people respond to it . Whenever I try out for anything , I tried to surrender a line how I would say it . Then I come up with a quality , but how would you say something if someone said , ' Hey , you ’re a bad , malefic man , Lex ! ' I ’d say , ' Why would you say that about me ? You do n’t hump me ! ' If you just take it from the standpoint of how would Michael say this ? How would Andy say this line ? Do n’t endeavor to put too much grapheme and register how you think a literal person would speak . That ’s my approach . I palpate like that worked for this character . It ’s being as down to earth , as veridical and ground as it mayhap could .
I recall people feel sad for the character , because he had a slew going against him . A lot of people had their ruling on him before they even got to know him , and that ’s difficult to deal with . It ’s like high shoal . All of a sudden , citizenry are realize playfulness of you and talking about [ how ] you ’re doing this and you ’re like , ' That ’s not me , why are they talking about me ? ' That ’s why I always can understand mass in high shoal who get picked on — I got pick on , I have sex what it ’s like . That ’s why I render to arrive from a vulnerable , real place with the case and I hope it pay off , apparently it did for some multitude .
By the prison term we get toSmallvilleseason 7 , and when we see Lex ’s final routine , it ’s almost grievous . You interpret Lex because he had such a rough upbringing to the dot where all the people around him were always against him . In a lot of ways , it was written in stone that at some tip .
Michael Rosenbaum : Exactly ! I think that when you depend at all the hard knocks he faced and the childhood harm , I think that it ’s a given . We all have a threshold and he was pushed to the point where he had to stop doing what he ’s doing and become something else . I consider that ’s what ultimately pass . For example , you commence Jonathan Kent promise you a liar and waiting for you to give out . You have your father just cozen you and proceed all these secret from you , [ as well as ] the women in his living . After a while , you go , ' You know what ? I do n’t need any of you . I do n’t need anybody ! I ’ve father the way I have , and I ’m locomote to do things my way . ' I think that ’s what happened ultimately .
It ’s odd , I would call the creators , Al Gough and Miles Miller , and I would say , ' He ’s too malevolent in this scene . ' They ’d say , ' We bonk you ’re going to play the reverse . We know you ’re become to fight against what that is and you ’re going to make it likeable , and vulnerable , so just brush off the parenthetical . ' They really swear me , ' Michael will land something to this that will be particular . ' There ’s a lot of press , but I always tried to find something in every scenery where it was a nicety . You could see me thinking something equivocal .
Sometimes I would n’t think at all , sometimes the camera would just move in on me and I rick my head . I was n’t think about anything , and people would say , ' Oh my gosh , what were you thinking about ? ' I ’d go ' Nothing ! I was thinking about nothing . Lunch , I ’m hungry ! ' I think that ’s sometimes when you could authorize your brain of thought , people wonder ' What is he up to ? ' He ’s not up to anything , he ’s just check out out Clark ’s butt ! [ laughs ]
Returning For The Smallville Series Finale For The Fans & Himself
It ’s been over two decades now at this tip , but what is something that still stays with you the most about this intact experience of having dally Lex ? Especially when you came back for the finale , which , by the way , thank you for amount back , that ’s something I ’ve been want to say for years .
Michael Rosenbaum : I had to ! People guess I depart or quit the show . I was suppose to do six age , and I signed on for a seventh year , but I refused to sign on three more geezerhood . There ’s a plenty of things go on with that . I was quick to move on . I talked about it and can talk about it now because he does n’t work there anymore , but the former president of Warner Bros. Television , Peter Roth , took me out for dinner party . He ’s like , ' You got to come back for these three geezerhood ! What are you choke to do with your life ? ' I articulate , ' My nanna thinks I ’m laughable . I ’m going to attempt go and unmediated clobber and live my life . ' He was trying to convince me and then my agent contract a call the next day that they ’ve made an crack . They did n’t even extend me anything , they just articulate , ' You ’re go to make what you ’re making , and we want you for three more years . '
I sort of feel , ' Oh , then they do n’t want me . They obviously do n’t want me . ' That ’s how you feel . I moved on , and it was loose to move on . I felt that after 165 episodes or whatever I did was near , but I was proud of the part . I come back for the sports fan and also hail back for me . I came back for the Smallville serial finale . I do n’t know if you know this , but I might have suppose it . I experience I needed to come back , so I send for the showrunners [ Kelly Souders and Brian Peterson ] , and two hebdomad or less before the serial publication finis , I allege , ' You have me next Friday , the whole Clarence Day for one day . Make a bald-pated ceiling . Let ’s film if you want me . ' And they made it happen . I father a bald ceiling , and I worked 24 hours straight on that solar day . I ’ll never forget it .
You were filmingBreaking Inat the same time , proper ?
Michael Rosenbaum : Yeah , you ’re proper . I was doing the show at that time . But it was the best thing I ever did , coming back , because I really got to say good-by at the same clock time everyone else was saying goodby to the show . I was allege a real goodbye to the show and to them , and it was emotional . I holler with my make-up creative person , Natalie [ Cosco ] . It just tally me after she clean my head off for the last time . I got out and had a cry , and she cried , it was a beautiful moment . It was like closing the door on something that was or could peradventure be the biggest thing that I ’ll ever do . That would be great ; that ’s okay with me . How many masses get to say they were on a tremendous hit show like Smallville and played a big character [ like Lex Luthor ] ? I was very gallant .
I ’m beaming I come back . I think the fans really value it .
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I know you ’ve babble about it before where you felt a minuscule bit flukey about how Lex lose his memory and all that get going down in the series finale . How are you dealing with it today , do you feel’I am okay with the way it ended’or’I would have desire something else for my conclusion ? '
Michael Rosenbaum : I do n’t love . I did n’t watch the show , not one episode after I left . In fact , I did n’t watch many episodes while I was on the show . That ’s why we ’re doing Talk Ville Podcast with Tom . We watch every installment , and I ’m forced to watch them . But I watched the series finale , and I invited some friend over . My friend Joe who had kept watching the show , and my other friend were telling me what ’s go on . Because I did n’t recognize what the hell was go on , I ’m going , ' await , Lois and Clark are getting married ? ' and they started explain to me .
But when I ascertain it , I go , ' It ’s got a honest energy to it . ' I loved my scene with Clark and Lex . I intend that was really unspoiled , and it was a gracious way to end it . I sleep together that I killed my sister [ Tess Mercer , played by Cassidy Freeman . ] For someone who shot for just one day , to see that , I was proud of it . I was felicitous , and I was glad that it was all over .
The Potential Of A Smallville Animated Sequel Or Reunion Movie
Something that I know many of us atScreen Rant always enquire about is the potential of the show come back . I recognize you and Tom spoke a year or two ago about this , but you guys were developing aSmallvilleanimated serieswith the shape and creator . I know last year the strikes probably impel it to get put on pause . But is there any update you may provide us with ?
Michael Rosenbaum : All I could partake in is that it ’s a with child idea . We have Al and Miles , the God Almighty of Smallville plump for us up . When it ’s the right sentence , we ’d like to go and do this ; pitch to Warner Bros. It has to be the proper fourth dimension , and correctly now is not the right time . We had the strike , we had a alteration of executive at DC — one being one of my best friends in the world , James Gunn . When the time ’s right , I think it ’s something that ’s a no brainer , unless they have other ideas .
We ’d like to do it — the whole plaster cast would like to do it . They would vocalise their own fictional character from the show , and we have a concept of what the show is . I inquire Tom the other day , ' If Al and Miles came to us and say , ' We get this enceinte idea for a Smallville movie . We want you guy wire to get in physique for the next two months , and then we ’re sound to go shoot this movie like a real finale … ' We were both like , ' Yeah ! " If it was right , I recollect that would be dumbbell . So many other show are doing that . I would certainly consider it . It would have to something that , again , was grounded .
But if Al and Miles did it , and want to do a one and half hour movie , I think Tom and I — we ’d all consider it . I think we ’d have fun going back , but we ’d have to really work to get back into those characters in that mindset because we ’re a good deal older . But if you shaved my head and you put physical composition on me , it still works !
So , you would shave your head again ?
Michael Rosenbaum : Would I plane my foreland again ? For certain ! attend , I probably would n’t play Lex again unless James had offer me Lex Luthor . Of course , I would have take Lex Luthor [ for the new Superman movie . ] But he did n’t , which is hunky-dory , and Nicholas Hoult was just on the podcast . I love him , I finally forgather him and he came over the house . He ’s such a majuscule actor , and I have no doubt that he will be fantastic as Lex . Who knows ? possibly you ’ll start calling him the undecomposed Lex , and then I ’ll be second honorable .
Befriending The Next Lex Luthor In Nicholas Hoult For James Gunn’s Superman
take heed , it ’s been 20 + years for me and I have not changed my opinion whatsoever . There have been great actors who have come along to play Lex , but for me personally , I ’ll always go,‘Michael is my Lex . ‘I wo n’t change my position till the twenty-four hour period I die . I do n’t bonk if you have assure this [ the Supermancast photo ] as they are getting quick to part shooting .
Michael Rosenbaum : The picture ? Yeah , I figure it ! He ’s sent me a word picture before that , and I obviously never posted it , but he sent me a picture of his look . I was like , ' I have ta see ! That ’s uproarious . ' He had more of a bombilation cut , but he looks dependable , man . He ’s a full seem young guy , and I suppose it ’s sound to be corking . I ’m frantic for them .
I attempt to be well-chosen for people , and I seek to enjoy the process and enjoy things that are in front of me . Because it ’s all silly , and we ’re all lucky to be here . see a guy like Nicholas get the character and actually perplex to know him a little bit is really coolheaded . It ’s really nerveless when you meet someone , and they ’re there more than you even thought they ’d be , so I ’m frantic for him .
Whether Or Not He Would Be Down To Play The DCU’s Lionel Luthor To Hoult’s Lex Luthor
We ’ve see other Superman actors issue forth back to trifle new , different roles . In my mind , I was just suppose the other day , what if you came in and possibly played a young Lionel Luthor . How would you finger about that ?
Michael Rosenbaum : If that ever came to the board , I would sure as shooting look at it . I experience like I ’m capable of really doing anything for the most part . There ’s very few affair that I recollect that I wo n’t do . But for me playing a function like Lionel Luthor ? No one would toy him well than John Glover , but if someone did offer me to play that role , I would for sure be able to roleplay that pretty easily . I think that just playing Lex was hard , it was a difficult role , but it really was n’t that hard .
There ’s a lot of animalism and mental game , but I was lucky to have enough experience in my life to take those experience and put them on concealment and go , ' oh , this is how I ’m being treated , okay . ' I can go back and remember feel that feeling I had when I was younger and take moments from that . That experience is an actor ’s best champion and If you do n’t have a lot of experience , you issue forth from a cooky - pinnace family . Everything ’s cheerfulness and you ’ve never had any hard knocks in your life , and you never felt genuine pain . I do n’t know how mystifying you could get . I have a feeling that the characters that the actors that are the best , a batch of it comes from chronicle , it comes from their puerility or their animation experience .
I intend maybe there ’s an exclusion to some , but sometimes you meet your friend ' parents , and go , ' Gosh , why could n’t I have parents like these parent ? These parent are together , and they verbalise to them , there ’s no ego . ' I was able-bodied to apply moment that I think back as a child , and those things that , I think , I ’m really appreciative of those now and I embrace those things . So I always say , if you have flaws , use those [ to ] realise what makes you , you . Use those to your advantage by being a skillful soul , by not doing certain things that peradventure you experienced in lifetime , or someone did to you .
But all those affair are significant for an actor , they always made us study all these things like Stanislavski , Udo Hoggins thought and Strasburg . My [ take ] was be grounded , [ to ] impart experience from your yesteryear into roles if you’re able to , because that ’s going to make you more credible . I in person reckon that , again , being grounded in realness , is the most of import matter , and mind , as an thespian , for certain .
conceive about it , you got to count at Christian Bale and suppose , ' Yeah , he ’s had some dark s – MT happen . ' I do n’t know anything about him , but he ’s had stuff and nonsense that he canalise through and he gets that , he could catch it where other people are like , ' I do n’t know how to get upset . ' That ’s the matter for me , I could snap . If you do n’t have that history , or you do n’t have those experience , you really have to act . If you have them , you should be able to carry them or snap correctly into them . Somebody wants me to be furious , [ they just need to ] give me five minute . Those are gifts , even though they did n’t seem like natural endowment when you were vernal , they felt very hurtful or painful .
Now , as the professing that I ’ve select , they might not facilitate you if you ’re a bread maker . [ laughs ] But if you ’re an histrion , those things are there as their gifts . They ’re their treasures that are disguise for a long time until they add up out and you ’re like , ' Oh , wow , I did n’t know I had that in me . ' Well , you do , so it ’s passably cool , I never really thought about that .
Reflecting On Arrowverse’s Crisis On Infinite Earths Crossover & An Almost-Return In A Mystery DC TV Show
We were all loaf when you could n’t take part intheCrisis on Infinite Earthscrossovera few years ago . Your reasoning was so sound , and I fully underpin you on why you could n’t come back . Can you dive into that situation a little moment more ? If you could have seen Lex come back , what is something that you would have want to see ?
Michael Rosenbaum : I do n’t get it on , but I will say this . There ’s only elbow room for one Lex . If they ’re doing this multiverse tale , I do n’t desire to be with other Lexes . If they want to show me in a different region , world or universe , great , and then have the other me in another universe , that ’s ok . But I did n’t really love the thought of having my Lex and other Lexes , it just was n’t something that worry me . I believe that the reasonableness I did n’t do it was because they pretty much said , ' Hey , we ’re blast this next whatever . We do n’t have a handwriting . This is what we ’re getting you . Are you in or out ? ' I ’m like , ' I ’m out . ' [ There was ] no money , no script , not telling me what ’s go on .
It felt speed ?
Michael Rosenbaum : Well , it was not only rushed , but … They were considering me for another show , to play Lex Luthor . I ’m not snuff it to say what it was for , but they wanted me and I think that ultimately , it did n’t work out . But I was flattered . There was something else that I turned down , and it did n’t get picked up , either . But I met with everybody , just to be respectful . I was honored as it ’s always nice to get an offering , but it was the form of part where you needed make up for , and it was credibly a match of hours of make - up every morning . I ca n’t really say what it was , but I just said , ' No thanks . I ’m not doing this for a show . ' For a movie , you [ would ] consider something ! That ’s the matter , if you ’re play Lex Luthor for two or three month for a film , big deal , shave your head ! It ’s a little dissimilar paring your head for seven year .
They paid well , and it made my career . I still do so many fun things because of Smallville . I would never change any of it and now that I ’m old , it ’s sort of like , ' Wait , where does it take ? How many minute ? Oh , yeah , no thanks . I do not want to do it . ' Now , that ’s not to say if somebody said … there was a serial publication that I almost did that filmed in Atlanta , and I loved it . I was a little bum , and I never get mooch ! But I was like , ' Ah , I thought that role was made for me ' and I thought we were going to get the offer for it .
I was n’t upset , but I experience that would have been fun . That would have been something I wanted , I would have had fun doing . I be intimate the atmospheric state of it and I think it ’s going to do well , I hope it does well , because it looks like a show that I would watch . [ What ] I ’m strain to do is where I want to do project that I would desire to see . Because I ’ve done some that I ’m like , ' No , I would not watch that . I would n’t need to find out it even if I was n’t in it , or if I was in it . ' [ Laughs ] I have the mentality , now that I ’m getting a minuscule bit senior , there has to be an component of fun . I have to like the projection , I have to trust in it . I want it to bring home the bacon . I cogitate it has a chance . If I ’m proceed into something going , ' This is going to be shred , this is going to be failure , ' that ’s not a good way to set about it so I attempt to just be realistic .
The Rise Of Inside Of You With Michael Rosenbaum
I decidedly want to talk to you about your podcasting empire that you ’re six years into now withInside of You , and it ’s such a wonderful podcast . You reflect and spotlight mental health amongst your invitee and yourself . For player and creators in Hollywood , when you discover these experience , what impact have they had on you , not just as a fellow role player or as a host , but as a human being when you appear back at your career with everything that you ’ve done and what you ’ve go through ?
Michael Rosenbaum : When I first started doing Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum , somebody said , ' You have a unspoiled part . You should do a podcast and interview some famous person friends , you may make some money . I go , ' Alright ! ' and I did n’t make money . no one heed and I just think , ' What am I doing ? ' Then a year or two years , I thought , ' I do n’t really have an audience here . ' Then something clicked and I commence to just open up up . I started to talk about genial wellness , confront adversity , I was vulnerable , speak about my disfunction . That ’s when guests started feeling like they could open up and talk about their life sentence .
Even little things , even if they do n’t open up completely , they talk about , ' Oh this is what helped me get through this . When my mom died . This is what avail me I get going through a really tough meter like this . ' It ’s just forthright conversations that I ’m a fan , I ’m not a even interviewer bozo . I ’m not like , ' Hey , here we are , I ’m Mr. Interview guy ! ' I ’m a veritable dude . I ’m the guy rope who require questions that I find like anybody out there listening would be ask , ' Oh what was that like ? Did you work with so and so , did you get virtuoso struck ? Did you get any movie posters or autographs ? ' I was sort of like a kid and I love that inner child coming out , that wondering side of me . I was starting to enjoy it more .
But then I notice that I had some fan starting to listen , I had some followers and listeners , which is when I created a Patreon account where mass sustain the podcast and really keep it going at Patreon.com/InsideOfYou . It ’s like this residential area and musical accompaniment for each other . The next matter I know , it ’s so much easy catch Edgar Albert Guest , like I had Keanu Reeves on . I just had Billy Dee Williams on and Nicholas Hoult . I think it ’s because word of mouth is that not only are the fans liking the conversations as my listeners , but I call up the guests are enjoying it and they text me after and they ’re like , ' Hey , that was really extra . I bonk I do n’t talk about that stuff . '
A lot of podcasts are three hours long and I get bored after an hour . I have ADD , so I want to get a unspoiled conversation . You could be on your way to work or on your way home , you could fetch up it and move on to the next one . You do n’t demand to sit there three hours and talk to somebody . I do n’t roll in the hay how they do it , but congratulations to them . But three minute with a invitee ? No , thanks , but I fell in love life with this podcast . It ’s very of import to me . I had a live podcast with Zachary Levi , we ’re going to try and do more .
Then from there , of course I move to Tom and I said , ' We should do a Talk Ville podcast , a podcast about Smallville . I imagine there ’ll be a good following . ' so I got him to do it . We ’re in our fourth time of year And we both really like it . We notice all the fans at the bunko game where there ’s Talk Ville shirts and there ’s a lot of inside jokes that we all can interpret and recognise and it ’s become a beautiful thing . So the podcasts , I think , are successful because I think masses see how much sport we , they and the guests are feature . It ’s real , authentic and sometimes hoi polloi say I s – t on the show for Talk Ville because I ’m honest and sometimes I do n’t like everything that ’s going on . So you got Tom ’s linear perspective and my linear perspective and yeah , I go for people will mind to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum and Talk Ville !
Helping Tom Welling Become A Podcaster Through Talk Ville Podcast
That ’s something I want to demand you about because you ’ve been podcasting for years now , but now , experience Tom get into it , how much fun has it been for you to see him incur his footing into being a main master of ceremonies and finding his podcasting part ? Because I aboveboard never thought , as someone who make out Tom Welling , he would be someone who would do a podcast every week .
Michael Rosenbaum : It ’s trust . I got to tell you , it ’s read time . Tom and I were n’t that close on the show . When I say not that tight , we just were n’t best friends . We were n’t hanging out all the sentence , he was engaged . I love Tom . But Tom had his life sentence , I had mine . After the show . we begin hang out more , he lived near me at the metre . We string up out , he did the podcast , we became closer . He bring in I had his back and he was n’t sure if he wanted to do the podcast . Then he keep an eye on it before and he ’s like , ' This is cracking ! '
From there , I tell , ' You got to do conventions , I think you ’re really pop off to bask this . You ’ll make some money and you ’ll make so many people happy and you ’ll be well-chosen too because you ’re make up them happy . ' He finally agree to it and he did that . Then I come up with this idea for Smallville Nights - yeah I ’m tooting my own horn here - it ’s like a show that we do with these cons . We do these secret case and we say quondam scripts , and I tire the bald crown .
It ’s funny , and masses say with us . There ’s no tv camera allowed and I ultimately arrive him to do that . We ’ve done like 30 or 40 of them now . Then I got him to do the podcast and I said , ' heed , man ' and he ’s like , ' I trust you . You tell that your podcast is great , the yard bird , and Smallville Nights . I ’ll do Talk Ville . ' Now , we ’re working on doing a resilient podcast for Talk Ville , where we do this whole thing , maybe it ’s Smallville Nights meet - and - greet for the hot podcast . We ’re move to try and do that perchance April or May .
We ’ve just became like brothers . I hump his wife , Jess [ Rose Lee Welling , ] she ’s awesome . It was knotty getting Tom on board at first and then he realise , ' Wow , I ca n’t believe I ’ve been miss this , this is fun . ' I see him take in merriment doing it and he lets me be me . He knows how my creative thinker works . I come up with ideas . I ’m like , ' Just swear me , just do it . ' We have that faith , we mind to each other and it ’s great , we build a with child friendship , a team and a partnership , and business . But again , we could n’t do it without the fans , without the listeners , without the patrons . It ’s sincerely amazing when people not only listen to your podcast , or support it , but then join Patreon to give extra to the show . There are so many generous citizenry out there . We are lucky , look at the fans , people say , ' What ’s it like ? ' and they give thanks us . I go , ' You guys are the reason , you guys are who needs to be thanked . '
I mean that candidly . Without lover , without multitude who appreciate you , we would n’t be anything . We would n’t be here , we would n’t be doing all this stuff . I mean everybody has fun and they realize that we really do appreciate them . So that ’s why we keep doing it . the great unwashed like you , you ’re awesome . You ’ve always been fabulously supportive .
And I will continue to be , it ’s a genuine honor for me ! You bozo are onSmallvilleseason 4 now , and I ’m very funny to see your thoughts and reaction when you get to the season when we did n’t have Lex . You cite to begin with that you had friend that would tell you,‘This has happened since you left,‘but how much do you know about the later seasons ?
Michael Rosenbaum : Andy , I know nothing . I swear if somebody put a gun to my head and said to answer these enquiry , I have no approximation . I never watched one episode , I have no thought . All I know is that my onetime stand in Morris [ Chapdelaine ] who I loved , they would shoot him from behind and make it look like me , and that was it . I had a sis ! I call up her agent reaching out , ' Will you talk to her before she goes in to take ? ' and I did , I utter to her and she was really appreciative . I had her on the podcast as well on Inside of You .
That was one of my favorite sequence . I was waiting for Cassidy to be on , and then you did it !
Michael Rosenbaum : She was great , she ’s a ravisher ! We ’ll see what go on when we get toSmallvilleseason 8 . We ’ll see if I can handle it . We ’ll see , if , again , the bread and butter is there , the Patreons and all these citizenry who keep listen , then we ’ll do it . It ’s twelvemonth to year . So correctly now we ’re pass to do time of year 4 . Hopefully seasons 5 - 6 , that will just continue as long as people want to stay tune up . So that ’s all we can do .
Upcoming Guests On Future Inside Of You With Michael Rosenbaum Episodes
Can you tease any of your upcoming guests onTalk Ville , I know you bring up some of them forinside of You , but if you may tell us about Talk Ville in the next coming weeks , who can we look forrader to hearing ?
Michael Rosenbaum : I ’ll give you this . I do n’t imagine she has aired yet but Sarah Carter , who play Alicia , is total on . We ’re really excited .. We ’ll have John Glover back on , do n’t interest . We ’re going to have Greg Beeman , Al and Miles again . We ’re going to have more down the road . For interior of You , with Michael Rosenbaum , we ’ve got Nicholas Hoult come up . We ’ve got Shelley Hennig which is airing now . We got Dermot Mulroney , Billy Dee Williams , Gaten Matarazzo , Skeet Ulrich , Lou Diamond Phillips , Edward Furlong , Felicia Day and John Rhys Davies . We got Tom Payne from The Walking Dead . Chance Perdomo from Gen. V. Casper Van Dien , we ’ve got so many slap-up guests , so I really treasure it if everybody tunes in !
I get nervous too . I ’m usually pretty calm , but when Billy Dee Williams was here , Lando Calrissian … at first , I was a little nervous . He was very babble out to me , and very in effect . Then I could see him open up and enjoy and express mirth and tthat made me feel good . I felt , ' Oh , he likes me . He like me . This is good ! ' At the very last , I go , ' Did you have fun ? He ’s like , ' Yeah , yes I did ! and I go , ' Would you ratify my Lando Calrissian bird ? ' He die , ' utterly ! '
He was so nerveless , and I call back they see that in me that I ’m not just some guy who ’s attempt to get stain . I ’m just trying to have a playfulness conversation and maybe have them open up a little bit , be a little more human and show that side that they ’re not just the impalpable . I savour it , I desire it retain . I take it guests by node , year by class , and hopefully if the fans continue to fend for me , and I ’ll keep doing it .
I have to expect because you ’ve had some of the other Lex actors on before , but have you ever tried to arrange an episode ofInside of Youwhere you have multiple of them , like a roundtable give-and-take , with all of the Lexes coming together , they talk about their experience . I get laid rooter would corrode that up .
Michael Rosenbaum : That ’s actually a salutary mind . I inquire who I can get on . That ’d be nerveless ! That would be really cool to get everybody just sitting down and or even on a Zoom call . I could go , ' What was what was it like for you ? What did you wish about this ? ' and verbalise about Superman that can be really cool . I would be up for that . permit me see what I could do . I jazz Nicholas say when he ’s done filming , he ’d get it on to total back on the podcast and talk about how it was , so I ’d care to him to do that . But maybe we could do something , even if it ’s like having those guy cable on for like 20 - 30 minutes as part of an sequence . Let me see because I still let the cat out of the bag to Clancy now and then , I talk to Jon Cryer . Nicholas and I ’ve been texting .
Let ’s see what happens , I would love to see you also talk to Michael Cudlitz who ’s been playing Lex Luthor onSuperman & Lois .
Michael Rosenbaum : Is that still happening ? How ’s he doing ? I love that guy ! I interviewed him before , but that was way before he got vomit as Lex . But good for him . Kudos to Cudlitz , that ’s cool !
What Is Next For Michael Rosenbaum?
What are you working on right now ? What can we reckon ahead to from Michael Rosenbaum , whether it ’s in TV or film ? I bang you squeeze the other day about wanting to direct again .
I ’m starting to get the itch back a little second to play because I take a happy chance from it , with the elision of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol . 2 and 3 , which were small part . But I ’m starting to get that feeling of , ' Let ’s do something ! If it ’s the correct fit and build up that excitement up , hit me again , I would do it . I order my protagonist , ' No more favors . ' I ’m not just doing a moving picture because of a admirer , if I ’m doing something , [ it ’s ] because I really recall it ’s either going to be a winner or I need to do it or it ’s fun . I ’ve done all that , I ’ve done the favour after favors and I just want to focus on what I require . It ’s not about what anybody else want anymore . It ’s about what I need to do in my career , and hopefully that will come to fruition . I ’m activated for the first sentence in a while , I consider , because I bring forth a effective anti - anxiety medicinal drug for the first time in my life history about a yr ago . I was always riddled with anxiety and now I feel like I ’m in a better place - I ’m still not 100 % , but right now , I can focalize , I can enjoy things . For the first clip , I ’m enjoying the process in a long time and that means a lot to me .
About Smallville
After a meteor shower bursts from the heavens , rain down destruction on the unsuspicious citizen of Smallville , year excrete , and the healing process leaves the town ’s denizen with scars and secrets . From the ashes of disaster , a pop yet awkward teen attempts to decipher the meaning of his life and his clouded past times . As he struggles with the transition from boyhood to adulthood , Clark finds that his strength and unusual abilities coiffure him uncomfortably aside from his peers .
About Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum
The " INSIDE OF YOU with Michael Rosenbaum ” podcast is a buff preferred because Rosenbaum maintain it real and is unapologetically vulnerable , which create a relaxing atm where guests sense comfortable sharing the most intimate details about their life .
About Talk Ville Podcast
Be sure to catch raw instalment ofInside of You with Michael Rosenbaumevery Tuesday , follow by new episode ofTalk Ville Podcastevery Wednesday , both through YouTube and anywhere you get your podcasts on .
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